Super Fox questions
Super Fox questions
I have an opportunity to look at, and possible purchase a Super Fox in the next few weeks. I am not new to double guns and own a few Foxes but thought I would never run into a SF locally.
The asking price is $5000, which I am guessing is in the ballpark for a SF. I realize that condition is everything when determining value so I would like members thoughts on what might be something that could be of concern on SF’s, and that I should look for.
Unfortunately I need to make a decision on the day we meet as the seller has always stated a price and if you dilly dally he puts the gun away and is never brought up again.
He states the gun is in great condition and from past purchases he has always been accurate in his description.
I plan on taking my bore gauge and take a few measurements.
Here are a few other questions. Are 32” barrels and 3 inch chambers for desirable? Was there years of manufacturing that are more desirable?
Did SF have factory pads? Any particular markings beside the H I should look for?
Any information so I can better evaluate the gun is appreciated.
I realize there is a lot of different information on the internet I can and have read, but I am more comfortable taking advice for or members.
Thanks Phil
The asking price is $5000, which I am guessing is in the ballpark for a SF. I realize that condition is everything when determining value so I would like members thoughts on what might be something that could be of concern on SF’s, and that I should look for.
Unfortunately I need to make a decision on the day we meet as the seller has always stated a price and if you dilly dally he puts the gun away and is never brought up again.
He states the gun is in great condition and from past purchases he has always been accurate in his description.
I plan on taking my bore gauge and take a few measurements.
Here are a few other questions. Are 32” barrels and 3 inch chambers for desirable? Was there years of manufacturing that are more desirable?
Did SF have factory pads? Any particular markings beside the H I should look for?
Any information so I can better evaluate the gun is appreciated.
I realize there is a lot of different information on the internet I can and have read, but I am more comfortable taking advice for or members.
Thanks Phil
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Re: Super Fox questions
$5K is cheap money for a righteous Super.
Aside from overall condition, unmessed with chambers and chokes are the litmus test that it needs to pass to enhance the value. Silvers has had special gauges made to do an accurate assessment.
There are lots of other variables. Is it a rare graded Super, 2 3/4 inch vs3 inch? Barrel length? Correct stamping?
There are others way more competent than I am who will probably chime in soon.
Aside from overall condition, unmessed with chambers and chokes are the litmus test that it needs to pass to enhance the value. Silvers has had special gauges made to do an accurate assessment.
There are lots of other variables. Is it a rare graded Super, 2 3/4 inch vs3 inch? Barrel length? Correct stamping?
There are others way more competent than I am who will probably chime in soon.
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Re: Super Fox questions
A SF with 32” barrels and 3” chambers will command a higher price. However, I’ve shot a lot of ducks with mine and I’ve never used 3” shells. Just something to consider.
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Here’s my two cents worth on the SF topic. 1st, ask yourself what your objective is for this gun. Are you wanting a gun to be used for waterfowl hunting or turkey hunting or for a collector specimen. If as a shooting/hunting gun what type of waterfowling do you do, (over decoys, etc.). As Jeff said many go nuts over a 32” barreled 3” chambered gun but most currently shooting them use 2 3/4” shells.
To me the barrels on a super Fox are most important. I would want all original bores, chokes and chambers. Keep in mind that while most may have been choked F/F not all of them were. Many SF’s left the factory with 2 3/4” chambers and were later altered/extended to 3”. In addition I would want the bores to be factory over bored (.740 +/-).
Secondly, make sure the stock is sound and an appropriate LOP for your needs. Many of these guns had a pad added later in life which is fine for shooting if LOP works for you but will hurt collector value. There are some that left the factory with a pad.
Another consideration is the actual weight of the gun for your intended purpose. The SF’s are heavy by design but there is a variation in that weight based upon length of barrels, density of wood, etc. etc.
Good luck with your purchase and keep us posted. As someone else suggested order the card so you know how the gun left the factory. That will help a lot with your assessment on condition, originality,,etc.
To me the barrels on a super Fox are most important. I would want all original bores, chokes and chambers. Keep in mind that while most may have been choked F/F not all of them were. Many SF’s left the factory with 2 3/4” chambers and were later altered/extended to 3”. In addition I would want the bores to be factory over bored (.740 +/-).
Secondly, make sure the stock is sound and an appropriate LOP for your needs. Many of these guns had a pad added later in life which is fine for shooting if LOP works for you but will hurt collector value. There are some that left the factory with a pad.
Another consideration is the actual weight of the gun for your intended purpose. The SF’s are heavy by design but there is a variation in that weight based upon length of barrels, density of wood, etc. etc.
Good luck with your purchase and keep us posted. As someone else suggested order the card so you know how the gun left the factory. That will help a lot with your assessment on condition, originality,,etc.
Regards - Foxnut
Re: Super Fox questions
All great feedback. I will get a letter immediately upon getting the SN.
I will shoot a few duck by jump shooting ponds, as far hunting from a blind I will shoot Sandhill cranes, with an occasional goose.
I try to shoot all my guns, but admittedly I am also a collector with no specific grade or manufacture.
I just like VERY interesting stuff and really enjoy researching as much as I can a a particular gun.
I will shoot a few duck by jump shooting ponds, as far hunting from a blind I will shoot Sandhill cranes, with an occasional goose.
I try to shoot all my guns, but admittedly I am also a collector with no specific grade or manufacture.
I just like VERY interesting stuff and really enjoy researching as much as I can a a particular gun.
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Would love to see a pic of a SF w/a Sand Hill Crane! That would be cool!!!
Regards - Foxnut