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Grip cap and Butt Plate for C grade Philadelphia Arms Gun

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:04 pm
by David Penland
Does any one know what type of grip cap and butt plate may have come on a C grade Philadelphia Arms 12 gauge? I am in the process of bringing one back to life and any information would be appreciated. Thanks

Re: Grip cap and Butt Plate for C grade Philadelphia Arms Gu

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:56 pm
by Researcher
From my observations Philadelphia Arms Co. used a plain generic butt plate with horizontal grooves between the screw holes --
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and a grip cap with horizontal grooves across the face of it.

Re: Grip cap and Butt Plate for C grade Philadelphia Arms Gu

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:30 pm
by eightbore
To identify totally original buttplates of this style, you need to count the serrations and measure the screw separation. They're not all the same.

Re: Grip cap and Butt Plate for C grade Philadelphia Arms Gu

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:41 pm
by Researcher
Eightbore may be the only person that knows that number of serrations. The picture I used is actually of a Tobin as my only picture of a PAC butt plate isn't very good. My C-Grade pigeon gun has a straight grip and a Silvers recoil pad.

Re: Grip cap and Butt Plate for C grade Philadelphia Arms Gu

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:14 pm
by Researcher
Found a couple of pictures of the grip caps.
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Also, the article on C. William Hayward's E-Grade Philadelphia Arms Co. gun in The Double Gun Journal Volume Two, Issue 1, shows a very ornate, thick, butt plate, made to add about a 1/4 inch or so to a stock. I've seen that butt plate used on L.C. Smiths and other American doubles

Re: Grip cap and Butt Plate for C grade Philadelphia Arms Gu

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:12 pm
by jolly bill
Dave Penland,

Very similar to what Dave Noreen/Researcher has shown above, here's the butt plate and grip cap from my Early A12 SN 7983. Maybe same style as used on the Philadelphia Arms Fox?