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Philadelphia Arms Extractor parts

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:06 am
by arkrunner
I have a friend with serial #51 incomplete an he is needing the forearm hardware. Can the new ejectors be modified to work or will he need the first ejector design?

Re: Philadelphia Arms Ejector parts

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:33 pm
by arkrunner
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Re: Philadelphia Arms Ejector parts

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:13 pm
by Researcher
What makes him/you think this is an ejector gun?

Re: Philadelphia Arms Ejector parts

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:16 am
by arkrunner
I’ll ask the owner to respond

Re: Philadelphia Arms Ejector parts

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:45 pm
by arkrunner
Nic was unsuccessful logging on. He tells me the barrels have ejectors in the receiver has a ejector trips. His previous employment including working at Purdy an Wesley Richards so I think he would know.

Re: Philadelphia Arms Ejector parts

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:56 pm
by Researcher
Previous to this gun, the 84 Philadelphia Arms Co. guns (or parts thereof) that I've recorded have serial numbers from 59 to 1846 and are all extractor guns. The one ejector gun that has surfaced has a serial number in the 26xx range, and its ejectors certainly aren't of the Max Wirsing design from Patent No. 767,621 that was assigned to Philadelphia Arms Co. Neither of the known Philadelphia Arms Co. catalogs, 1904 and 1905, mention or price ejectors, but the order form in the 1905 catalog has the line "Ejector or Non-ejector__________________________________________".
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Lock Mechanism from 1905 catalogue.jpg
Patent No. 767,621
Patent No. 767,621
The extractor guns only have a guide pin for the extractor on the left side --
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so a hole for a guide pin under the right barrel could be a clue for an ejector gun.

Re: Philadelphia Arms Ejector parts

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:25 pm
by arkrunner
Amazing information, Nic is mentoring me an im currently working on a fitting new droplocks on a westly richards.
The next time im there will look for the guide pin. This is exactly the information needed
Thanks again

Re: Philadelphia Arms Ejector parts

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:41 pm
by arkrunner
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Researcher your comment have been are tremendously helpful. As you can see above the Philadelphia arms is an extractor gun per your detailed pictures. You are a great and knowledgeable resource. No we just need to locate the proper parts. Hopefully finding extractor parts will be much easier than the ejectors.
thanks so much again.

Re: Philadelphia Arms Ejector parts

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:51 pm
by Brian Dudley
I have a complete Philly Arms parts gun and should be able to help with whatever is needed on this gun.

Re: Philadelphia Arms Ejector parts

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:33 am
by arkrunner
Pm sent thank you Mr. Dudley