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Fox choke measurements
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 8:50 am
by James Orr
On a 12 ga Fox Skeet and Upland Game Gun when they referred to the left barrel choked "quarter choke" and the right barrel choked "skeet cylinder", what would these actually measure with a bore gauge? And how long would they be?
Thanks for any info on this.
Regards,
James Orr
Re: Fox choke measurements
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 12:41 pm
by Researcher
The Skeet Cylinder is very much like Winchester's WS-1 or Remington's SKEET choke of the 1930s and 40s. About .005" or .006" choke about 1 1/4 inch back from the muzzle then a flare of ten thousandths to the muzzle. Ithaca Gun Co. had drawings of such a choke, but I've not found it when measuring chokes in Ithaca doubles choke marked S and S.
The 1/4 choke is about .010" normal taper. More open then Winchester's WS-2 or the left barrel of the Ithaca skeet guns in my collection.
Re: Fox choke measurements
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 1:03 pm
by James Orr
Researcher, Thank you.
Regards,
James Orr
Re: Fox choke measurements
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 1:46 pm
by James Orr
Reseacher,
Just measured it. Right =.004 no flare, Left=.009, choke length 1 1/2 inches. Sound correct or messed with. Bore dia .734.
Regards,
James Orr
Re: Fox choke measurements
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 3:03 pm
by Researcher
I'll have to say that I haven't measured enough Fox skeet guns to say definitively. I can say that both of my 12-gauge Skeet & Upland Game Guns have bores of .728". My 16-gauge Skeet & Upland Game Gun letters from John Callahan to be skeet cylinder and 1/4 choke, but the chokes actually measure .009" and .017" with conventional tapers?!?
Marshfellow has probably owned/looked at more Fox skeet guns then anyone else, hopefully he will chime in here.
Re: Fox choke measurements
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:43 pm
by Sporrns
Felt left out so I dug up my Callahan letter and actual choke dimensions on my 16 ga. SKUGG - Letter says "Skeet Cylinder" R, 1/4 L". Actual measurements are .005 and .011. Look out grouse!! K. Forgot to note mine is also a 26-incher.
Re: Fox choke measurements
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:47 pm
by vaturkey
James Orr wrote:Reseacher,
Just measured it. Right =.004 no flare, Left=.009, choke length 1 1/2 inches. Sound correct or messed with. Bore dia .734.
Regards,
James Orr
I almost bought one a few years ago like that and I thought it had cut barrels because the choke length was like that. What is the length of the barrels?
Re: Fox choke measurements
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:52 pm
by bbman3
I had a 16 S/U and you could look at the muzzles and see the flare on the right barrel choke. Bobby
Re: Fox choke measurements
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:01 pm
by James Orr
Barrel length is 26 inches exactly.
James orr
Re: Fox choke measurements
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:57 am
by vaturkey
James Orr wrote:Barrel length is 26 inches exactly.
James orr
Only a letter would confirm it for sure. If the right choke doesn't flare, the barrel ends don't touch and the chokes are only 1.5" long I'd be suspicious.