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B 20 Bird
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:25 am
by R.R.
Finally hit a small 40 acre field that I am fortunate to have permission to hunt on. Weather was in the teens and 20 mph wind, but just a smidge of powder blowing around. The CRP is pretty clean, so I took the 20 B grade out for a walk. The dog worked well, 5 points, 3 hens, 1 rooster..... and 1 rabbit. 1 shot, 1 kill, I hope that he has more friends. Only allowed 2 roosters, we had enough for the day.

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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:13 am
by FOXIST
RR
Good to see you out with that nice 20 bore!!! Nice ringneck and the Dog looks like it got plenty of work also. Please tell us a little bit about the B grade and of course that wonderful dog? Good luck on your future outings.
Paul
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:20 am
by birdawg
It is great when it all comes together........
Thanks for the photos and shareing what it is all about. Do tell more about that sweet 20.
Jess
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:00 am
by R.R.
Well, the gun is as lettered. 20 B grade, 26" Krupp barrels, M/F, 14 1/8" lop to factory buttplate, about 5 1/2 pounds. Shipped to Simmons Hardware in 1917. It is my favorite Fox.
Off topic, my dog is a 2 1/2 year old WP Griffon. She's had well over a thousand grouse/woodcock contacts, but we don't get those kind of opportunities for pheasant. She still has plenty to learn... the both of us.
I also enjoy the hunting pics.

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:41 pm
by fox-admin
b grade
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:50 pm
by boocoo
Hi,
Are they krupp steel ?
Pat
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:23 pm
by birdawg
OK now I have to find a good B grade
Very nice guns guys.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:34 pm
by R.R.
Pat,
yes, Krupp.
Craig,
yes, it's a B grade, no ejectors... just the way I like them.
Actually, this is the dog's 3rd season. She was backing naturally and pointing her own birds (ocassionally) between 5-8 months. When I say contacts, I mean exposure to both grouse and woodcock, not all pointed..... and I surely don't shoot that well. But I have done my best to give her the opportunity to learn over the last 3 seasons, well over 1000 wild birds. Between work being slow, and my vacation time, we were able to spend 29 days this fall season in the woods. The depth of the snow will keep us from chasing many more this year unless we get a warm-up. We will continue to chase a few pheasant around closer to my workplace. She still has plenty of growing up to do. We may even try to pick on some ducks and geese this year.
Thanks for asking,
Rick.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:31 pm
by R.R.
Jess, ... good luck!
Craig, thanks for the added photos. Maybe I can come up with better photos.
I like to say," I live where the grouse and trout live.... but work 300 miles away".
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:17 pm
by FOXIST
R.R.
Researcher will correct me if Im wrong but I think Simmons was a large hardware outfit out of ST. Louis MO. back at that time. I did own one Fox S-worth that lettered there.
Here is a pick of a 1915 vintage BE 12 bore that I posted last year, some new members might not have seen this one.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:13 pm
by james-l
I am thinking that B grades with the later style engraving must be fairly rare, any ideas on how many were produced? I once owned a 16 ga BE that I sold in a weak moment and have regretted it ever since.
Jim
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:38 pm
by Researcher
Great guns!! Thanks for sharing guys. My second generation B-Grade 12-gauge 28-inch 4 weight barrel straight grip is pictured in the B-Grade section of our web site --
http://www.foxcollectors.com/b%20grade.htm
My B-Grade is only 14 numbers higher then my similarly configured old meat-in-the-pot A-Grade that was shipped July 1, 1914, and the B-Grade wasn't shipped until September 23, 1918. The card for my B-Grade says "See B 21349 for all dimensions". Anyone out there have 21349??
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:46 am
by abner
David: The suspense is killing me, did you order a letter for Fox #21349?