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Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:06 pm
by SWUtahSxS
In my search for a nice A. H. Fox S x S shotgun, I have noticed lots of them for sale with 30 inch barrels. Can someone explain this? Are they popular, or the opposite?
Inquiring minds want to know. :D

Thanks.

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:51 pm
by Researcher
Far and away the most common barrel length for 12-gauge American doubles during the classic period was 30-inch. I don't have specific numbers for A.H. Fox Gun Co.

Looking at The Parker Story the tables of each grade section consistently show 12-gauge 30-inch the most common. Trojan Grade 11,966 of the 33,005 guns made were 30-inch 12-gauges. Next closest was 28-inch 12-gauge coming in with 8220. In the VH-/VHE-Grade 31,227 were 12-gauge 30-inch. The next closest was 28-inch 12-gauge at 13,660. Of the 14,249 Twist barrel PH-/PHE-grade guns made, 8072 were 12-gauge 30-inch. On up to the 79 A1-Specials made of which 35 were 30-inch 12-gauges.

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:42 pm
by gunsrus
How about numbers on 20 and 16 gauge Foxes with 30" barrels . I'm assuming much less then 12's .
They do command more money for sure .

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:47 am
by Researcher
I have been recording observed Sterlingworths for a bit over 30 years now. Of the 120 16-gauges I've recorded 28 have 26-inch barrels, 81 have 28-inch barrels, 8 have 30-inch barrels and 3 have 32-inch barrels. Of the 104 20-gauges I've recorded 47 have 26-inch barrels, 48 have 28-inch barrels, 7 have 30-inch barrels and 2 have 32-inch barrels.

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:02 pm
by MARSHFELLOW
Thanks for your stats Dave

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:41 pm
by Stan Hillis
Yes, thank you very much, Dave.

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:09 pm
by Researcher
I went the distance this morning and tabulated the 12-gauge Sterlingworths.

Out of 73 "Pin Guns" 2 with 26-inch, 13 with 28-inch and 58 30-inch.

Out of 237 smooth pin guns, 49 26-inch, 59 28-inch, 104 30-inch and 25 32-inch. Also, twelve Fox-Sterlingworth Wildfowls with 32-inch barrels.

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:39 pm
by Jim Cloninger
Good work, Dave!

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:47 am
by gunsrus
Dave , thank you . One more question , of the Graded guns 16's and 20's , how many 30" barrels of each ?

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:27 am
by vaturkey
Researcher wrote:I went the distance this morning and tabulated the 12-gauge Sterlingworths.

Out of 73 "Pin Guns" 2 with 26-inch, 13 with 28-inch and 58 30-inch.

Out of 237 smooth pin guns, 49 26-inch, 59 28-inch, 104 30-inch and 25 32-inch. Also, twelve Fox-Sterlingworth Wildfowls with 32-inch barrels.
New one on me. What is a Smooth Pin Gun?

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:00 am
by Researcher
What is a Smooth Pin Gun?
Any Sterlingworth that is not a "pin gun."

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:42 am
by ROMAC
Researcher wrote:
What is a Smooth Pin Gun?
Any Sterlingworth that is not a "pin gun."
I get it, as opposed to a recessed pin gun.

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:58 pm
by bbman3
Those 30 inch and longer 20 gauge sterlingworths are scarce! Bobby

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:16 pm
by vaturkey
bbman3 wrote:Those 30 inch and longer 20 gauge sterlingworths are scarce! Bobby
Don't recall even seeing one at auction or for sale. I have owned at various time 3 different 30" 16 gauges including one 30" ejector Sterly which I still own. Also owned an ejector Pin gun with 30" barrels. Was going to turn that into something really special, but at the last minute sold it off. _

Re: Why so many A. H. Fox 30 inch barrel shotguns for sale?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:23 pm
by Stan Hillis
I've got two 32" 16 ga. vintage S X Ss, and one 32" 20 ga., but none are Foxes. The longest barreled Fox small bore I own is 30".