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mc15426378 wrote:I've not ordered a letter on the gun, need to, but before I throw $30 out the window has anyone ordered one and how much info was in the letter? Worth the expense?
When I got the letter on my 16ga SW John Callahan noted that there typically is not much info on the Utica Sterlingworths; ergo I have never bothered to letter my others. I'm glad I have one letter, but it's not worth the $30 (or whatever it is now) for the info you get, IMHO.
Oh, Jess!! I need more info on that gun 132317. Hmmmm.. No zero in the hundreds place of the serial number. Are the barrels STERLINGWORTH FLUID COMPRESSED STEEL or SPECIAL ALLOY -- FORGED STEEL? Pistol grip capped or capless? Top-Lever and safety slide Philadelphia shape or Utica style? Forearm slim Phily style or the more bulky Savage style? Your gun falls right in the gap where all those things change in my observed Sterlingworth tables.
Dave,
I thought I sent this and photos of the gun by PM last year when this came up.
Maybe the pm feature doesn't work so well or maybe it is just me being too busy. I don't have the gun right here but I will get you some photos.
Off the top of my head it has the slim forearm not sure enough to say about the rest.
"I have more than I need, but not as many as I want"
"The search continues on many fronts"
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If you did send them, Jess, I've lost them, cause they aren't in my PM inbox, saved messages, or in my picture files. Please try again when you have the time.
No one has had access to the Sterlingworth records at Savage to go thru them and count how many 32-inch 16-gauge Sterlingworths were built. I doubt anyone is ever going to go through 28000 16-gauge Sterlingworth cards and figure that information out. Going through 90000 plus 12-gauge Sterlingworth records would be even worse.
In all my years of looking at Fox guns I have never seen or heard about a 16ga with 32" bbls, I have only seen one 20 ga with 32" bbls.
If you stumble across either by it!
A little over two years ago, a member friend and I went on a road trip to look at a Fox collection, one of which was a 16 gauge 32" AE with F & F chokes that was shipped to California Hardware. Probably ordered by a member of the cult there that liked 32" smallbores for ducking. S/n 3015xx according to my notes. We both passed, and I've been second-guessing myself ever since. I gave the seller's info to another friend who later bought the gun. Well, at least she's with a good friend.
I've also had the opportunity to shoot a friend's 32" 20 gauge Sterlingworth on a sporting course. Way cool gun! Before anyone thinks they're more common... it's probably the same gun referred to here by Craig. The only 20 gauge 32-incher I've ever seen. Silvers
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Earlier this year (?) a gent from Alabama posted on the Doublegun site that he had purchased a 16 ga SW with 32" barrels from a widow in MS. No photos but I have no reason to doubt the poster.
There are a goodly number of 32-inch graded guns in 16-gauge. My 32-inch 16-gauge A-Grade is one from a nest of 32-inch A-Grades in the records. I've examined two or three others out of that nest.
Couldn't find a full length picture of it on this computer.
As I stated early in this thread I have not recorded a 32-inch 16-gauge Sterlingworth, and only one in 20-gauge. Years ago I saw a 32-inch 20-gauge Sterlingworth in a gunshop in Manhatten, Kansas, but it wasn't for sale. Years later a great friend of the double gun community showed up at The Vintage Cup at Sandanona with a 32-inch 20-gauge Sterlingworth (the one I now have in my records). As I recall he said he got it at the Tulsa, Oklahoma, gun show. Maybe it is the same one I saw in Kansas.