Fox Collectors

Nice job Jess! ....now who did each one??

Three more for the kennel:
137xx- shipped 1908
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183xx


2026xx- shipped 1929
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Marshfellow

Damn! Tom, that first one looks nice but I'll have to ask my English Setter, "Wilkes" his opinion...

I didn't want you guys to think I just collect high grade PAC shotguns. Here is another setter on the bottom of my 1924 vintage CE sn 29976 and few other shots. It happens to be a safety delete "live bird" gun shipped to J.W. Keifer. It might be possible that he was the US Speaker of the House at one time? Needs more research.

1911 CE grade #200002[/url]

Okay here's a new dog I saw on a CE today, s/n 198xx. Pointer type dog with fence rails in the background. Sorry for the poor pic but camera was goofed up and instruction manual was at home. No more camera loanouts. Frank

A point of interest: I have a CE grade, serial number 140XX that Callahan
says was shipped on May 11, 09. This agrees with the info found on Double Gun Shop: High Grade Manufacturing dates--1909--#9,900 thru 15,000 and 1910--#15,001 thru 18700.

You show guns manufactured in 1910 (3) having serial numbers below 15,000. Was it a practice of Fox manufacturing to assign serial numbers
and then not finish the gun until the following year?

Please understand that this is only too increase my understanding of how Fox manufacturing functioned.

I find your documented information to be outstanding and would be the
first to buy a high grade picture of the C Grade Fox collage(?).

FOXsan









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FOXsan, I have a 106xx CE grade shipped in April of 1909 per John Callahan. That's about 1 year later than some other 10xxx guns that are documented. I like the early "Ansley Era" Foxes and have looked at a bunch of them. My take is it's mainly a function of the assembler reaching into the bin and picking out a numbered receiver.... and it wasn't strictly first in - first out. This 106xx CE is the one I've taken pics of on the other thread on sear springs, and it's in the very last stages of restoration. More pics to come and possibly a story for the AHFCA Newsletter. Silvers

Silvers,

Thanks again!

FOXsan

That's an amazing amount of variation in not only quality, but in the basic subject orientation and type of dog. It's pretty obvious that there was either little or no standard drawing or a constantly changing one that the engravers used. Just from the large variation, it looks to me like no standard drawing to work from, just '...put a dog here...'.

After 1913 the engraving shows little variation in design just a change in execution. Early graded guns have much variation. I wonder if during the early years if engraving was done by out workers and that accounts for the variation. Anyhow, it makes collecting interesting.