Since wishing doesn't cost anything .........

[Stan Hillis]

I wish that Ansley, or the Godschalks, had seen fit to produce a .410 Sterlingworth. I understand why they didn't. Going into the gun business bucking a headwind, like Ansley did, was tough enough without having to come up with the tooling to produce another scaled frame gauge gun. But, just think how sweet a 28-30" barreled .410 Sterly Ejector would be. Having the "littlegunitis" like I do, I can just picture it in my mind. My illness hasn't reached Stage 4 yet, and caused me to consider a CSMC Fox .410, but it does cause me considerable consternation, on the long afternoons on a tractor, daydreaming about "what might have been". I've even had a dream that I had one.

Just tell me straight out, how bad is it, Doc?

[44whiskey]

it must be contagious, i have a touch of it too, all the best 44whiskey. ps CSMC 410 above my pay grade at present. double ps i would like to shoulder one of the belgium folding double hammer guns. i think i would like that if i could find one in good condition.

[Researcher]

I find that most of the vintage .410-bores are very hard to shoot well. They have way too much of their weight "between the hands" with those tiny whippy barrels out front. Adding to the "between the hands" weight is the heavy breech ends of the barrels to fit the too large frames they are built on. Most I'm familiar with are in the 5 3/4 pound weight with 26-inch barrels. Tony built a really tiny frame for his RBL-410. My RBL weighs a fraction of an ounce over five pounds and with its 28-inch barrels has much better handling dynamics.

I have never had the opportunity to handle one of the .410-bore Ansley H. Fox doubles Tony has built. With a weight of just over six pounds with 26-inch barrels, I'd guess the .410-bore Ansley H. Fox by Tony that is currently listed on GI is on the regular frame --

[DarylC]

I've always thought a 28ga. on the existing 20ga. frame would be the cats pajamas Stan. The 20ga frame on a Fox is same size as the OO frame Parker. Just imagine a 32" Fox 28, straight grip with the longer forend.

[Stan Hillis]

Just imagine a scaled frame .410 being two sizes down from the petite 20 ga. Fox frame. It would be tiny! I have two other makes of .410 S X S that are on gauge specific frames, and they are so lovely. But, no one ever built a box lock frame with the beautiful sculpting of a Fox. Oh well, it costs me nothing to dream.

[Researcher]

Tony did build the really tiny Ansley H. Fox frame for the .22 LR double rifles

[Stan Hillis]

Yeah, that one was really tiny.

[fox-admin]

Interesting topic, Daryl your dream gun would be a holy grail gun in today's market, I can't imagine the auction competition for such a gun.
My dream gun exists 31736 a CE Super Fox with ducks engraved on the action, I wish they were all made that way.

[Stan Hillis]

When some distant uncle passes and leaves me rolling in it I'll commission one to be built. I'm not counting on the lottery because I don't play it. Farming is gambling enough for me.

[eightbore]

I'm not sure that the .22 rifle frame that Tony builds would not accept a set of .410 barrels. Even if it is too small between the pins, a slight modification may make it acceptable for .410 barrels. However, many long barrel .410 and 28 gauge guns have been built on CSMC small frames and are perfectly acceptable guns with good handling qualities. An Iver Johnson Skeeter would also make a good handling .410 with long barrels.

[Researcher]

There are those Parker 32-inch BHE .410-bores out there somewhere.